BEIJING, Nov. 29 (Xinhuanet) -- As the fight against the Islamic State intensifies, Indonesia's counter-terrorism chief, Saud Usman Nasution, has called for greater intelligence-sharing efforts within South East Asia. Nasution hopes that better cooperation will help minimize the chances of a Paris-style attack from happening in the region. CCTV's correspondent sat down with Nasution to get an inside look, at how the world's most populous Muslim country plans to tackle extremism.
Q1. "Pak Saud, thank you very much for your time, for my first question, how big of a threat is ISIS to Indonesia"
Saud Usman Nasution said:"They want to establish caliphate global under abu bakar baghdadi, if you look at to the story of radicalism in Indonesia, since our independence until now, they have intention, now how about the chance, if they have intention and they have chance, they will attack."
Q2. So What are you saying, the dangers for Indonesia is that because ISIS exist, they have a chance for these people who already has a history of radicalism, so they can have a chance? is that what you're saying?'
"The Condition of ISIS now in indonesia, from police we received information 100 people joined to ISIS, but from intelligence more than 800 people joined with ISIS. ISIS in Indonesia, i think danger, because while they are join as foreign terrorist fighter in iraq syria, they have training about military training, training about how to make bombs, they have training strategic material and also they get to war, they have experience, and then if they come back, based on our experiences with jemaah islamyah when they come back to indonesia they attack some target because they revenge, they revenge for america for example," said Saud Usman Nasution.
Q3. "So are we winning the fight against ISIS in Indonesia?"
Saud Usman Nasution said:"Every time we try to anticipate and then to process, to changing their mindset, i think now indonesia, indonesian people they understand about the problem but the big problem is how to solve the problem about the root cause, because root causes, they revenge for example, their property, their about the social gap, and some maybe the policy of our government."
Q4. So you're saying that before we can address the root causes, these problem will still be arise and all you can do is to contain it?
"Yes, must be solved the root causes, because the root causes not only ideology but also social problem in their lives."
Q5. "Indonesia has the largest muslim population nation in the world, how important is it Indonesia to the fight against terror"
"Our activities to enhance our efforts, our efforts to changing their mindset not radical, the heart of a jihadist , and then many countries in the region. I think if we can influence jihadist indonesia how to be islamist believe, i think they can also, they can copy."